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Played with in Asterix and the Soothsayer - Prolix the Soothsayer is a fake and knows nothing. When he gets arrested by the Romans because soothsaying is illegal, he correctly predicts how a dice would fall, and hastily protests that if he'd known that he wouldn't have said it. As the question of whether he's really a soothsayer becomes more and more complicated (because the centurion wants to believe the predictions about himself becoming Emperor, while insisting to his optio (adjunct) that it's okay to work with him because he's a fake), increasingly convoluted versions of this logic are applied to every prediction he makes, whether it's accurate or not. (At one point, the optio tries the dice test again, and he gets it wrong, prompting the centurion to tell Prolix not to get too clever, or even the optio might suspect something.) When Alexander Litvenenko died, some of the speculation on who killed him got to this level. Welcome to the Cold War. Cerebus the Aardvark does this several times, usually involving Lord Julius, a Clown Prince of Magnificent Bastardy. Astoria also does this to Cerebus even while chained to his dungeon wall. Also in the regular series episode "Let's Kill Hitler", between the Doctor and River. Though it doesn't matter, because she's already poisoned him. Come to the Sunshine", a '60s sunshine-pop ditty written by cult favorite (and future Beach Boys Smile collaborator) Van Dyke Parks and recorded by Harpers Bizarre, has in its chorus the line You know, I know, you know, that I love you.
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What are you waiting for? Who knows me better? How much do you know about me? How well do my friends, family and crush know me? Grab your partner or BFF and take the How Well Do Know Me quiz. Played awesomely on an episode of Chowder where the title character is trying to stop his Hyde-like Sleep-Eating form from finding the stash of food he hid, thinking about three steps ahead of himself, sadly to no avail. In the Big Finish audio " The Rosemariners", at one point the Doctor's companion Zoe Heriot ends up in a variant of this situation when she has to pretend to be a communications officer on a space station while working with Colbert, a copy of a dead officer who's working for the current villains. Zoe muses that both she and Colbert are trying to hide the fact that they don't know anything about these systems from each other, but the difference is that she knows Colbert doesn't know anything about these systems, whereas he assumes that she does know what she's doing. In Neal Stephenson's Cryptonomicon, Detachment 2702 exists to generate enough random noise to cover up the fact that the Allies have broken German and Japanese ciphers. It stands to reason that if the Axis finds out, they'll switch to a new cipher, so being able to act on the information they got without revealing they have this information becomes very important. Dune Messiah continues the pattern, only this time it's Paul's enemies pulling The Plan aimed at forcing him to choose between his beloved and his Imperium. He knows they are doing this, but falls into the trap anyway, only to be rescued from it by the son who will later replace him as the most powerful prophet in the universe.Richie in The Class (2006) must determine how Duncan's date went for Nicole, but since he's a Bad Liar, he ends up revealing Nicole's secret, then Duncan's secret, then both. In Hammer of the Witches, leading up to the climactic confrontation with the traitor, both sides know the other is aware of the true nature of the situation, but both keep up the front of naivete.
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Lando: Thrawn or no Thrawn, the Empire is still down to eight sectors. Maybe this is really all he's going for, hoping to confuse Coruscant so badly it just freezes up. Also used by the author in Crime and Punishment, where the Nietzsche Wannabe protagonist and the Inspector Javert who inspired Columbo play this game. Parodied mercilessly in the National Lampoon's Doon, where two characters have a half-hour long conversation without knowing what the other is talking about. Thematized in a short story by German SF author Herbert W. Franke (no relation to Frank Herbert!) where two rivaling superpowers have both invented super spy cameras. Of course the spy cameras also see themselves, which leads to an iteration through all the steps of the above con classification scheme until they realize they know all. Which makes a grown spy cry. Stricty for the amusement of the reader. After all, the camera doesn't read minds, so they can still play spy chess. Kim Possible: Kim and Ron notice that Shego left a far too obvious clue that she had stolen the MacGuffin, so clearly she and Drakken were setting up a trap. Unless they wanted them to think it was a trap and avoid it, in which case the way to confound them was to walk right into it, except it was a "trap-trap": Drakken knew that they knew that Drakken knew that they knew that it was a trap.
Played for laughs in Losing It All when an Alternate Universe Xander is asked by Cordelia if he's evil (he's arguing he might be and she's arguing he's not). After a few layers of "I know you know", Cordelia stops it by pointing out he isn't smart enough to think that far ahead, causing Xander to admit he isn't evil. Burn Notice talks about this during season 2. Michael, having started to become much more enlightened as to Carla's objectives and methods, begins to spy on her. Unfortunately, as he points out, he can't do anything different because it would clue her in to the fact that he already knows a little of what's going on. Star Wars Rebels: At the end of "An Inside Man", Grand Admiral Thrawn implies that he knows that Agent Kallus is the traitor in the Imperial ranks, and Kallus is aware that Thrawn might know. It's later revealed in "Through Imperial Eyes" that Thrawn wasn't as sure of Kallus being the traitor as it seemed, although Kallus was definitely one of Thrawn's top suspects. Gendo: 'Fifth Child? So soon after we 'found' the Fourth? Kihl has to know I will regard anyone they send as a spy. And he knows I know that.'
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Yes, but if they know I know they know, they may do (X) instead. But what if they know more than I think they know? They could be acting like they only know that I know they know, when in fact they know that I know they know I know they know!" EllipsisGoblins : I say stuff to Danielle, then I tweet what I said, then I tell her that I tweeted it and now I'm tweeting that I said I tweeted what I said. A semi-real life example, meaning it's actually an urban myth, is Winston Churchill's Coventry dilemma. Allegedly, Churchill had to allow the city of Coventry to be bombed, to prevent the Nazis from finding out about the British spies in Germany who knew about the bombing plan. In reality, the British tried to jam the Germans' radio guidance system , but had to take a guess at the frequency to use. They got it wrong. The third round in Liar Game becomes this with Akiyama and Yokoya. It's likely that the upcoming fourth round will feature it even more. Studies of animal intelligence sometimes use this trope as an analogy to model a species' cleverness in social interaction. Humans are the only species known to be able to do five levels of I/you know/think, while other great apes seem able to manage four (e.g. they can bluff and be subtle about it so the other ape won't catch wise). Or maybe the apes are far better at it than humans.
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Alice: Yes you did! You said you couldn't believe I said what I said about what I thought you said (b The Flintstones has one of these. It's something to the effect of "Even though he knows she knows he knows he knows she knows he *doesn't* know..." The first book alone features a subverted Red Herring Mole (someone suspected of being a traitor who is both too obvious to be the real mole as well as Beneath Suspicion, but actually turns out to be the traitor), followed by an elaborate mind game played by Thufir Hawat to set the Harkonnens against one another, and capped with Paul successfully bluffing and counter-bluffing the combined forces of the Bene Gesserit, the Imperium, and the Spacing Guild.
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